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darren_strangerThey played the Prodigy. It packed the dance floor. I should have seen the signs and left then.
There were glowsticks. Phat pants with reflectors. And music to suit.
It was only a matter of time.
There were glowsticks. Phat pants with reflectors. And music to suit.
It was only a matter of time.
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Date: 2005-04-09 06:00 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-04-09 08:24 am (UTC)I cut my losses by walking home. Spent the money i saved on taxi fare on an AFI cd today, so it wasn't a dead loss.
(Was going to ask for my entry money back as well, but was in too belligerant a mood to trust myself not to be obnoxious about it - no point totally burning bridges as it may be better another time. Pity i can't count on it any more though).
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Date: 2005-04-09 08:32 am (UTC)AT least you've got Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
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Date: 2005-04-09 08:20 am (UTC)Where did you go ?
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Date: 2005-04-09 08:35 am (UTC)Somewhere i usually can count on to hear at least a decent swag music i like. Hopefully they were just having an off night.
I decided it was time to leave when i had to stop myself putting my fist through the toilet wall. It's a shame that having to listen to two hours of techno, industrial and nu-metal can still make me lose my rag and get about with a face like a cup of cold sick, but i've wasted too many hours of my life doing that and just can't abide it any more.
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Date: 2005-04-09 10:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-04-09 02:40 pm (UTC)Last night was a deviation from the norm for us for 2 reasons.
venue management took the bottom floor from us to host bands, we usually use this floor to keep the doof brigade happy.
And the fact that we were doing VJing instead of just regular DJing.
This obviously has an effect on the music that we can play in that it kinda needs to have had a video made for it to get played :P
Also tracks were selected not only on their musical content but some for the clips as well.
Sorry to hear you had a crap time, I actually saw you leave looking rather pissed off looking and wondered what was wrong.
Ironically the DJ that was playing when you left only played about 5 doofy tracks as the crowd weren't really into it so he went back to his usual form.
Hope it doesn't put you off us for keeps.
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Date: 2005-04-10 01:18 am (UTC)Figured that might have something to do with it, when i thought about it (mixed crowd = lowest common denominator) but at the time it always seems like "ride's over, back to reality".
Scares me how quickly and badly my mood can sour. I haven't had any tolerance left for "mainstream goth" since Heresy days, but i didn't realise i still had such a short fuse.
I thought i was getting better, but i'm getting worse.
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Date: 2005-04-10 08:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-04-10 01:33 am (UTC)Sadly, i can't take "mainstream goth" any more. It's a shock to realise i now hate Rammstein, White Zombie and NIN almost as much as Cubanate, FLA and the like. Having to play that shit over and over at Heresy probably killed it for me once and for all - i think i've managed to bring myself to listen to Rammstein once since then.
Seriously, i'm a worse music snob now than i was even ten years ago. I'd have much more fun if i could get the fuck over it, but it seems i can't.
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Date: 2005-04-10 08:29 am (UTC)I honestly think that EBM is one the way out. Recently when i have gone out it just hasnt packed the dance floor as much as it used it. Even old Fav's like Covenant dont pack the dance floor.
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Date: 2005-04-10 10:33 am (UTC)To be fair, Craig did try to put on djs who liked that music, but it just wasn't what the crowds wanted to hear most of the time. When i started doing it, i had all these ideas of seeking out bands like Dream Disciples and Bela Morte to play, but before long i was instead buying Rob Zombie and Placebo and all those things i started djing because i was sick of hearing in the first place.
I do remember one time at Heresy, when one particular dj ignored the 'no doof downstairs' principle and ploughed in to an awful set of Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, Manson and bleepystuff. I was wandering about muttering to myself things like "what is this, effing Abyss?" when i noticed the dancefloor packed for the first time in the night, and it occurred to me that the reason Abyss was so successful was most likely that that awful music really was what people wanted to hear. If anything, i think Abyss was kind of a barometer of mainstream goth tastes at a given time.
Staying away from places like Abyss and Psychonaut for so long has let me forget that most of the scene keeps its taste in its arse (from my perspective). I'm always paranoid that Cabaret Nocturne is going to turn into more of the same, which is no doubt why i cracked the sads so bad the other night.
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Date: 2005-04-11 02:21 pm (UTC)You had every right to get angry...
And yet it's great being the one to predict such things ain't it? 'Cept I didn't personally foresee the downfall of CN myself, only crapmilla's...
And most the people I know agree with you and what Lyle said in the above post about Abyss... they did in fact poison Melbourne's palette...
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Date: 2005-04-12 02:42 am (UTC)We had only one floor.
We were playing music videos most of the night
In any case, even with these circumstances we played a good bit of oldschool (remember sourcing vids is not easy!) including videos from The Chameleons, Christian Death, The Cure, Alien Sex Fiend, New Order, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, Lords of the New Church, Visage, Depeche Mode, Switchblade Symphony, Skeletal Family, Visage, Corpus Delicti, Eva O, Kraftwerk and hopefully I'll actually be able to rip my DVD's for next time so there'll be even more variety..
I'll be posting a full setlist soon.
About Abyss and mainstream etc. I think you need to understand that club promoters have 3 masters. Themselves, the punters and the venue management. If you don't get enough people through the doors and keep them drinking then venue management won't be long about pulling the plug. So you can be faithful to your musical tastes and run a club that doesn't sell out in any way, but it'll likely last about 4 weeks. OR you can keep the mainstreamers happy and at the same time subtly try and educate their musical palate.
Last week was a big success for us in terms of the majority of people enjoying the night and having fun. That legacy will doubtless bring more people next time. Next time they'll hear and see more diverse music and hopefully like it!
PS if anyone has any new Deathrock (should that be nu-deathrock *ducks*) video clips they want to share, I'm MORE than happy to play them next time :)
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Date: 2005-04-12 06:06 am (UTC)Bugger, missed all the good stuff.
Sadly, i'm all too aware of the pressures to keep the crowd happy with lowest-common-denominator music, which is why all clubs seem to end up sounding the same and why i've always been surprised that Nocturne can actually play good music and still be going (and also why i'm always paranoid it'll change while i'm off playing 'maybe next week'). Maybe i should just take it as a reminder of what the alternative is if i don't come and spend booze money there more often. :)
By the way, none of this is meant to be about expecting a club i barely get to once a month to cater specifically to me (i didn't know any of you would be reading it). It was more an 'ouch' at being reminded that what i hate is still what the majority seem to want, and how little it takes for me to turn a night out into a shit time.
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Date: 2005-04-12 09:10 am (UTC)Hope to see you there again :)
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Date: 2005-04-12 09:57 am (UTC)Maybe next week.
;)
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Date: 2005-04-12 07:09 am (UTC)Hey, i'm not heralding Nocturne's downfall.
Well, okay, at the time i wrote it i was feeling that way, but it's more about being bitch-slapped with the notion that Cabaret Nocturne may not always be that little sanctuary from the fuckawful mediocrity of mainstream 'goth' that i've taken for granted (and wasted playing 'maybe next week'). That, and realising just how alienated it can still make me feel (i think i went from mellow to sneering in record time - i really am becoming a cranky old git).
Seriously, it's the only time i've *ever* had a shit time there, and an as Mr Lobotomy pointed out it was an unusual night, so i'm not about to go writing it off yet.
Besides, i wouldn't say i had 'every right to get angry' - i'm hardly a regular and it's not all about me (shit, there goes my goth card) but it is how i felt at the time and sometimes i gotta vent.
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Date: 2005-04-09 11:38 am (UTC):P
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Date: 2005-04-10 01:41 am (UTC)'Sokay, i happy now. Just needed a grizzle. It's more about how little it takes for me to have a shit time than anything else.